Star Trek London: An Interview with Chase Masterson

This interview can also be found on Step2TV.

Whilst at Star Trek London, I had the great pleasure to meet and chat with Chase Masterson - known in the Star Trek Universe for her role as Leeta, the Bajoran Dabo girl, in Deep Space Nine.

Alongside her career as an actress, Masterson is a talented jazz singer - a number of her CDs can be found on her website - and a dedicated philanthropist, having been actively involved in numerous charities worldwide, including Caring for Babies With AIDS and Doctors Without Borders. She has also been mentoring children for over four years at Homeboy Industries, helping kids move away from gang culture.

She is currently working on a Big Finish audio series, Vienna, which is a spin-off from her character in the upcoming Doctor Who audio adventure The Shadow Heart, starring Sylvester McCoy. She is also working on a film adaptation of Karel Capek’s classic science fiction play, RUR.

Masterson is a genuinely lovely person, and it was an absolute pleasure to chat with her.

BJ: Hello, Chase Masterson! How’s it going?

CM: Very well, thank you, it’s been an amazing weekend.

BJ: It's an amazing event! What's the fan reception been like this weekend?

CM: It’s just a huge blessing to have this kind of support, and I want everybody to know how much we appreciate it.

BJ: And how was last night? I hear you performed at the 25th Anniversary for The Next Generation.

CM: It was a fun party! I sang for a really nice sized crowd, and it seemed very, very well received. I sang selections from my new CD, Jazz Cocktail, which is available through my website, and I feel very very very good about the whole thing!

BJ: Fantastic! Who would you say was most inspirational for your jazz career?

CM: There are several women jazz artists who I really respect. Julie London, Sarah Vaughan... Marilyn Monroe was a really great singer. Of course Ella Fitzgerald. Quite a few great female artists back in the day. That’s the music I love, golden era music of the 30s, 40s, 50s and early 60s.

BJ: It was a fantastic era for music.

CM: Yeah, sure was.

BJ: So yes, we’re here for the largest Star Trek convention to take place in the UK for over a decade, and it’s certainly drawn quite a crowd!
You’re known in the Trek Universe for playing Leeta in Deep Space Nine; how did you feel about your character’s development throughout the series?

CM: I really liked Leeta, I wish there was more grittiness in her storyline, but I loved what I got to do, and I think that it was a really great love story that she and Rom had. It was a pleasure to be a part of all of this.

BJ: In your opinion, what drew Leeta most to Rom? Was it the ears?!

CM: Haha, no not the ears! Rom was the guy who was pretty on the inside, and not on the outside but that didn’t matter. I think that’s something that the writers and producers wanted to make a statement with, and it’s an important statement; it’s what’s on the inside that counts. There wasn’t as much of an interesting relationship with Leeta and Bashir; it was more of a Barbie and Ken kind of thing. Boring. Leeta and Rom were more Lucy and Ricky, there was just more drama, more comedy and fun!

BJ: Yeah, there was a fantastic, comedic dynamic to the Leeta/Rom relationship. Now the show has had an undeniable impact on it’s fanbase, and on the world, and it means a lot to many people (as is evident by the Starfleet officers who are starting to queue up behind me!).
What does the Star Trek Universe mean to you?

CM: Well, the whole basic tenet of Star Trek; the infinite diversity in infinite combinations, the prime directive, everything that Star Trek has meant for the last 45 years is quite beautiful. I love that this audience appreciates that and sees it and loves the show for all the right reasons. It’s not a show that they love for sex or violence or anything gratuitous like that; there are really good messages here.

BJ: It makes my cold, misanthropic heart almost hopeful for the future of humanity!

CM: Yeah, almost! We’ll see...

BJ: We just need to get the world governments on board with this...

CM: You know, I think things are starting to happen in a way that is better than ever before in history. The Internet is making people feel more connected, and that will lead hopefully to more peace.

BJ: Absolutely, already through the use of cyberspace and social networking, people can be brought together, rally support and aid charitable causes greater than ever before.
I understand you do a lot of good work for charity, like with Homeboy Industries.

CM: Thank you! I’ve been mentoring kids at Homeboy Industries for about four and a half years, and it’s one of my favourite things in the whole world. They’re an amazing group that helps kids come out of gangs, and these are Los Angeles gangs that are bad, dangerous things to be a part of, and these kids get sucked in when they are very young and they are now turning their lives around. It’s really quite wonderful to be a part of that.

That’s at homeboy-industries.org.

BJ: It sounds like a truly fantastic cause.

CM: It really is.

BJ: And finally, I hear you’re also doing a Doctor Who audio series?

CM: Yes! I’m doing Doctor Who Big Finish, you can check that out at BigFinish.com. I did an episode opposite Tom Baker in the Doctor Who audio adventures, and did an episode opposite Sylvester McCoy. Then they spun off my character that I played opposite Sylvester McCoy - her name is Vienna - into her own series. It’s going into production next week, the series is called Vienna, and it’s going to be a huge amount of fun!

BJ: Can you share any details about Vienna, or is it completely bound by non-disclosure agreements?!

CM: Vienna is an incorrigible and charming assassin. She is a bounty hunter; she does what she does for a living - she’s rather dry and actually pretty fun about it. The whole thing is full of great english comedy, it’s got some good messages to it, and I just adore this project! I hope everyone tunes in.

BJ: Fantastic, I’m looking forward to it!

CM: I’m also doing a new project called RUR. It’s a beautiful piece of science fiction literature that we’re turning into a film. The original RUR is a classic play from the early 1900s, and it has been used as the basis for Metropolis, I Robot, Blade Runner, and a lot of other seminal, classic science fiction. It’s actually the first time we ever heard the word ‘robot’.

We’re doing the fundraising campaign on IndieGoGo.com/RUR, so check that out if you’d like!

BJ: Ah brilliant! The name rings a bell - think the original was written by a Czech playwright... Can’t think of his bloody name*! But yeah, certainly sounds like a fascinating project, I’ll be sure to check it out!
Thank you for your time, great meeting you. It’s been an absolute pleasure.

CM: Thank you! Great to meet you too.

Vienna is scheduled for release in February 2013, with Masterson’s character making her first appearance in the upcoming Big Finish instalment of Doctor Who: The Shadow Heart in November this year.
You can check out the RUR IndieGoGo page here, and Homeboy Industries here.


*It was a good 40 minutes later, whilst on the underground half-way home, that it hit me; Rossum’s Universal Robots by Karel Capek! My fellow passengers weren’t particularly excited about my revelation...

Destination Star Trek London: An Overview

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Last weekend, the biggest Star Trek convention to be hosted in the UK in over a decade beamed down to London’s ExCel centre. With a wide array of guests ranging from every series in the Trek Universe - plus the momentous union of all five captains for the first time ever at a European convention - the greatly anticipated Destination Star Trek London promised to be nothing short of spectacular.

With the hall packed with a range of fantastic guests, rows of autograph signing booths, photo opportunities, talk areas, stalls stocked with merchandise, a prop museum and a stunt show, Star Trek London was like a particularly pollen rich flower to a hive of Trekkie bees. Over 17,000 Star Trek fans swarmed to the event to meet the stars of the show, hunt autographs and memorabilia, and indulge in two great British past-times; queueing, and tutting about the length of the queue.

Friday started off with a dedicated press hour; photographers, journalists and bloggers gathered inside the venue for the red carpet event, eagerly awaiting the arrival of some of Starfleet's finest. Headed by William Shatner, the stars made their way into the hall, pausing for photographs and interviews before being shown to what would be their home for the next three days. This is when the first defining experience of the event occurred, as Shatner shot past me on a golf-buggy yelling “warp factor 5!” If that doesn’t set the tone for the event, I don’t know what does! Of course, the monumental occasion of the first day was the opening ceremony, which saw the captains from each of the five Star Trek series take to the stage. Hosted by John Barrowman, the talk covered their experiences on the show, at conventions with the fans, the impression the series has made on the world, and generally all things Star Trek. It was a superbly fitting opening to this celebration of what Patrick Stewart most accurately calls “the absolutely unique phenomenon in the history of entertainment that is Star Trek.”

The first day of STL also played host to another first for the UK - a Klingon wedding. Held in the Klingon Zone (where else?!), Jossie Sockertopp and Sonnie Gustavsson were wed by Peter Wyllie in a traditional Klingon ceremony as seen in DS9: You Are Cordially Invited. The setting for the ceremony was complete with throne, faux-flames, and a 10ft Klingon statue, which I'm sure is something that not many other people can boast about their own wedding day. The wedding cake, created by Charlotte White of Restoration Cake, was composed of three Borg Cubes. As it turns out, Borg Cubes aren’t actually harbingers of destruction but are in fact primarily composed of delicious Red Velvet cake and fondant icing... Resistance was indeed futile (may the Prophets forgive me for this terrible cliche).

I wish Gustavsson and Sockertopp many happy years together, as I suspect Klingon divorces aren’t quite as pleasant.

Saturday was the day I had dedicated primarily to the Q&As with the five Captains (although due to the typical unreliability of London transport when you actually need it, I arrived mere moments too late for the Q&A with Avery Brooks, which I caught on the Sunday instead). Throughout the day, Scott Bakula, William Shatner, Patrick Stewart and Kate Mulgrew took to the stage to talk about their experiences and answer questions from the fans. Highlights from the captains include (but are certainly not limited to) Stewart regaling the audience with tales about his friendship with Brian Blessed, a great many humorous anecdotes from Shatner, and Mulgrew’s views on “Mittens” Romney (“He’s missing a chip and needs to be removed from the country!”). In fact, each Q&A was a highlight in and of itself, and the many facets of each talk are far too numerous to list in this simple paragraph - I’ll have to write up dedicated articles for them soon!

Sunday - aside from catching up on the Avery Brooks Q&A - was focussed on the other talks being held at the event. The problem with an event such as Star Trek London is that there’s invariably at least three very interesting things going on at any given time, and this was very much the case for me, with the majority of the talks I wanted to attend conflicting with at least one other. In some cases the decision as to which Q&A I should choose quite literally pivoted on the toss of a coin. Once I’ve perfected my time machine, I’ll be travelling back to get to the things I missed!

Highlights from Sunday absolutely have to be Avery Brooks’ deeply reflective and insightful comments during his Q&A; he is a truly magnificent gentleman. In addition, there was a Q&A with the omnipotent Q himself, John de Lancie, a panel with a number of the stars of Deep Space Nine, and a session with renowned producers and writers Ronald D Moore and Ira Behr. It’s always fascinating to hear the guest’s views and experiences on the show, and the process the writers and producers go through to create it.

I was fortunate enough to meet and briefly interview Ronald D Moore whilst at the event; I’ve been a fan of his for quite some time, and it was a great privilege to chat with the man whose work has helped inspire some of my own writing. Moore has just started working on adapting the Outlander novels, written by Diana Gabaldon, which is definitely something to keep an eye out for!

It was also a great pleasure to meet Chase Masterson (Leeta on Deep Space Nine) and chat about her career. The interview (which will be published soon) covered her time working on Star Trek, her career as a jazz singer (her latest album, Jazz Cocktail, will be available soon at www.chasemasterson.com), and her charity work mentoring children at Homeboy Industries helping kids move away from gang culture. Masterson is currently working on her own Big Finish audio series, Vienna, as the impossibly glamorous bounty hunter Vienna Salvatori (who makes her first appearance in the upcoming Doctor Who audiobook The Shadow Heart, starring Sylvester McCoy), and is also working on a film adaptation of Karel Capek’s classic play R.U.R., which are certainly things to look forward to!

Overall, Star Trek London certainly did not disappoint; I felt that the event was indeed spectacular, with a great selection of talks and a fantastic array of guests. At times, the queues seemed a little disorganised (especially when it came to the captains) and some of the visitors I spoke to felt disappointed by the expense of the weekend, but I personally didn't experience this, and my overall sense of the event was remarkably positive and I sincerely hope that there’ll be more events like this in the near future.

Personally, the lasting impression I received from the convention was how the show had made an impact on it’s fanbase and on the people who had worked on it. Hearing how Star Trek had changed people’s lives, how it had inspired and taught them, and witnessing the power that this science fiction series has to bring so many people together... It’s that community, that collective dream for a better, brighter tomorrow and the innumerable ways it’s touched people’s lives; that’s the beauty of Gene Roddenberry’s vision.
May it continue to live long and prosper.

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Check out my pictures from the event here.

London Film and Comic Con: An Interview with Ben Browder

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again – I bloody love Stargate! As such, it was beyond brilliant meeting with the man who portrayed Lieutenant Colonel Cameron Mitchell – Ben Browder.

Browder, probably best known for his role as John Crichton in Farscape, joined the cast of Stargate SG-1 (along with former Farscape co-star, Claudia Black) for it's final two seasons, leading the team after Richard Dean Anderson left the show. Although Anderson's role as Colonel Jack O'Neil was certainly a tough act to follow, Browder proved to be a fantastic addition to the cast.

From the moment I heard Ben Browder would be attending LFCC, I couldn't wait to interview him!

BJ: Hello, Ben Browder! How have you been enjoying the weekend so far?

BB: Well it's been fun, although I'm a little jet-lagged. My soul is still somewhere over the Atlantic.

BJ: I guess you arrived recently then, just for this event?

BB: Yeah, flew in on Friday, so I'm almost up to Greenwich Mean Time.

BJ: Well, give it a few more days! When do you have to head back to the States?

BB: I head back on Tuesday.

BJ: Blimey, so you don't have a lot of time to acclimatise!

BB: Nah... I might see a mate or two on Monday, and then head back home so... I'm not staying for the Olympics, not going to see the Wimbledon final...

BJ: Can't blame you for not staying for the Olympics! It's going to be rainy, all the transport's going to be delayed... Very British concerns!

BB: Ya know what, it'll be fun. The Olympics is a great event.

BJ: No doubt about that, but I bet you a fiver it's going to rain on the Opening Ceremony!

BB: You're on!

BJ: Anyway, you starred in both Stargate and Farscape, two very prominent SciFi series. What was it like working on such critically acclaimed shows?

BB: It was a brilliant experience, I loved it. It was great. Farscape with all the amazing things we had on set, the prosthetics and animatronics, the fact we were shooting in Australia which has a very free-wheeling sensibility about it. It was great. Stargate, by the time I got there, they'd been doing the show for eight years so they knew what they were doing, and my job was to fit in; basically getting along with the cast, and they're fantastic people! Chris is very, very funny, Mike's a consummate actor, Amanda's just lovely and Claudia came along for a bit of the ride as well. Both were really great shows.

BJ: And you actually wrote a couple of episodes for both series as well.

BB: I wrote two full episodes for Farscape, and for Stargate I had a story idea which I gave to the writers, and they used it – I didn't actually write the script for that one.

BJ: One of the great things about Stargate was how hands on the cast were with writing and directing episodes, which I think really strengthened the cast with their input and the show as a whole.

BB: Well, I think it was a very good cast. They're obviously a very talented group of actors, many of them multi-talented. … Star Trek did that as well; Jonathan Frakes is an excellent director, so it's not that unusual to see that kind of thing happen. But definitely, all of the Stargate cast are terribly talented.

BJ: Absolutely – personally I reckon Stargate is one of the best SciFi series out there! Now, on the topic of brilliant SciFi, you're also going to be appearing in an episode of Doctor Who in the upcoming series.

BB: Aha, yes.

BJ: Are you able to reveal anything about that, or would a sniper take you out if you said so much as a word?!

BB: I'd probably be deported if I said anything. I can't tell you anything. If I said one thing and then Matt Smith says another thing, or someone else says something, by the time it all gets put together you might have the entire setup.

BJ: You've foiled my plan!

BB: Ha! So, no, I can't tell you anything, other than that it's a Western and that it was a lot of fun – I had a great time.

BJ: Had you been a fan of Doctor Who before-hand?

BB: Yeah, I've actually seen all of the new series. My kids absolutely love it, so you know, it was a no-brainer. When the question came up “do you want to do Doctor Who?” it was immediately “when and where?!”

BJ: Well, I'm thoroughly looking forward to it and... There appears to be a queue forming, so we're going to have to wrap it up.

BB: See, you're stood here for more than three minutes and people queue up behind you... It's England!

BJ: Can't resist a good queue! Anywho, I'm thoroughly looking forward to that episode! It's been an absolute pleasure talking with you.

BB: Great, thank you.

London Film and Comic Con: An Interview with Chris Judge

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I've been a fan of Stargate SG1 for as long as I can remember, and it still holds the number one spot on my list of all-time favourite science fiction series. Naturally, when I heard that one of it's stars, Chris Judge, would be at London Film and Comic Con, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to chat with the man who so outstandingly portrayed one of my favourite characters!

Starring in SG1 as Teal'c – a Jaffa warrior who defects to join the people of Earth, and fights to lead his people to freedom – Chris Judge is very much a part of the show's DNA and is deeply ingrained in Stargate mythos, having been on the show since it's inception in 1997 to it's finale in 2007.
It was an absolute honour and a privilege to finally meet him.

BJ: Hello, Chris Judge! How are you enjoying this weekend?

CJ: It’s been great. The people are just nice, the energy’s good and everybody’s happy, and meeting with the fans has just been great. This is one of my favourite conventions. I never cease to be surprised by how many Stargate fans there are!

BJ: Fantastic, glad to hear it!
Obviously you’re probably best known for your role as Teal’c in Stargate SG1, having been there since the show’s inception. What was it like working on such a popular franchise?

CJ: We were so kind of insulated when shooting in Vancouver, we just got on and did our job and no-one made a big deal out of it or anything, and so when we started travelling I guess that’s when it really hit us that the show was that popular. It’s still mind-boggling that we stopped shooting it 2007, and it’s almost like there are more fans of the show now than there were when we were shooting it! But yeah, it was great.

BJ: In some ways Stargate has gone down in SciFi history much like Star Trek - it may not have been as long lived, but its legend is one that’ll be remembered.
And whilst you were starring in SG1, you also wrote quite a few Teal’c-centric episodes that further developed his character...

CJ: Well I had to! [He laughs] It was hard for the writers, because if you wrote a Teal’c or Jaffa episode everyone had to speak in that way, and they always involved a lot of armour, so they were our most expensive episodes. It was really nice that Brad [Wright] actually let me start writing, because the only people that really enjoyed writing Jaffa episodes were [Damian] Kindler and [Peter] DeLuise. So yeah, it was really cool that Brad let me do that.

BJ: To what extent were you involved in the scriptwriting process for those episodes? Did you write the whole thing, or was it the storyline that was then developed by the writers?

CJ: I wrote the whole thing.

BJ: Ah magnificent!

CJ: And Brad even let me do that outside the box, because... Well, there’s a writers’ room, and they have a bunch of pitches that have been accepted and they spitball stories, and I really wanted to know if I could actually write so he just let me go away and write. So it really was a boost to my confidence.

BJ: One of my all time favourite episodes was The Changeling...

CJ: Ah thank you.

BJ: I loved how it deviated from the normal formula of the show, and toyed with the concept of reality - flitting between the two very different versions of reality.

CJ: I was always a big fan of alternate reality shows, where you can’t keep straight what reality we’re in or what version of Earth we’re in. But that’s why we stopped doing them because we didn’t know which Universe we were in any more! So it was nice to go back to that for an episode.

BJ: And I noticed you have a role in the upcoming Dark Knight Rises - can you reveal anything that?

CJ: It’s going to be great!

BJ: Well, no doubt about that!

CJ: There is some crazy stuff happening. I don’t want to go out on a limb, but it’s going to be the best movie ever!

BJ: What was it like working with Christopher Nolan?

CJ: He’s a genius. Everything everyone says about him is completely true. The dude is a genius. He sees what works, what doesn’t work, he can see where the camera should be... And he doesn’t micromanage you, he kind of tells you what the big picture is and it’s up to you to play it how you want to play it. He really doesn’t micromanage actors at all. It was just really cool to work that way and have that much freedom; a little disorientating at first - at least, for me - because he didn’t really say a lot direction wise, so I was kind of asking “is this alright?” and he’s like “no no no, if it’s not I’ll tell you!” It was just great to work that way.

BJ Fantastic! Well, I’m certainly looking forward to seeing it. Have you been working on any other projects recently?

CJ: Well, after this I have a film called To Have And To Hold which comes out in February, I go to Cambodia in a couple of days to start a new movie, and a TV series that’s just going into prep.

BJ: Fantastic, sounds like you’ve got a lot on at the moment! Is there anything you can reveal about this new show?

CJ: What I can say is that it’s a SciFi show, and it’s going to be announced soon - maybe in the next month or so. We’ve signed a deal with a certain company, and we’re in negotiations with another company - they’re doing some of the best stuff in film right now - and this will only be their second foray into television. I can’t wait to let it out of the bag; the fans are gonna get a kick out of it!

BJ: I wait with bated breath! Thank you for chatting with us, it’s been an absolute pleasure. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

CJ: Thank you, you too.

London Film and Comic Con: An Interview with Alex Winter

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Alex Winter, probably best known as Bill S. Preston, Esq. in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure and Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey, has an extensive CV as both an actor and a director, ranging from directing music videos for the likes of Red Hot Chili Peppers and Helmet to co-writing, co-directing and starring in the surreal 1993 film Freaked. With his Napster documentary, Downloaded, recently completed and word of a third Bill and Ted film circulating the space-time continuum, I was thoroughly looking forward to talking with him at London Film and Comic Con.

BJ: Hello, Alex Winter! How’s it going?

AW: Not too bad, still conscious! There’s still some brain left in my head, but I can’t guarantee how much longer that will last.

BJ: Did you only recently arrive in London then?

AW: I got here yesterday.

BJ: Blimey, you must be bloody knackered!

AW: Yeah, yeah. Here, do a bit, go home.

BJ: That jet-lag’s going to be fun... But then again, you are used to travelling through time!

AW: Yeah, yeah. [He chuckles]  Well, I am used to travelling anyway, so it’s all easy.

BJ: Now this is probably a question you’ve been bombarded with since you arrived here, but, there’s been word about a third Bill and Ted film...

AW: Yeah, there’s a script and we’re playing around with it. It’s not definitive at this stage, but... That’s all I can say.

BJ: So you haven’t got producers, directors etc. signed up for it yet?

AW: Nothing I can talk about, nothing official. We’ll go official with it as soon as we can, but we can’t really say anything more than that. It may happen, it may not happen, we won’t know for sure, but we did have to do a script.

BJ: Did you and Reeves have a lot of input with the script?

AW: Oh yes, me and Reeves did, yeah.

BJ: Ah fantastic! I think with yourselves being so intrinsically part of the characters...

AW: Yeah, and with us and the script! It’s kind of all woven together.

BJ: Can you reveal anything about the script?

AW: I can’t because it’s not going. Once it’s going, I can say it’s going, but we’re not going yet. I mean, that’s not even a hint, that’s just the truth. We’re trying, it’s early, but it’s still moving.

BJ: Ok, well hopefully there’ll be official news somewhen soon!

And you’ve also been working on a documentary about Napster; Downloaded. What can you tell us about that?

AW: I’ve been working on that all year, just finished it about a week ago, and it’ll come out theatrically and on VH1 next year.

BJ: Ah fantastic.

AW: Yeah, so it’ll be a VH1 VOD Doc release, and then it’ll be out in theatres.

BJ: Have you got plans to hit any film festivals with it?

AW: Yeah, we’re just starting to put that together now. Definitely want to do some festivals here in England, because I love both the London Film Festival and Raindance.

BJ: Both are fantastic; I loved Raindance last year.

AW: Yeah, I love that festival. It’s a question of timing, so... But I’m aiming to do at least one of those, so that’d be good.

BJ: That’d be brilliant!

AW: Yeah it’d be great. Fingers crossed!

BJ: I’d love to see it at somewhere like Raindance; they certainly have a wide range of fascinating documentaries.

AW: I had a movie there eleven years ago, and they’ve done great things with that festival. They do good seminars and stuff for up and coming film-makers, helping new people get involved in the industry, I like that.

BJ: I don’t know if they ran this eleven years ago, but they’ve got this thing now where the festival’s winning film-maker creates the trailer for the following year’s Raindance - which I thought was rather cool!

I think with an industry that’s so hard to break into, it’s fantastic that festivals such as Raindance are supportive of rising talent, be it through the screenings, seminars, or newsletters.

AW: They’re incredibly good at nurturing new film-makers. Even in the states, they send out regular bits and they’re good with all that stuff. I’m on their newsletter, I like reading what they have to say.

BJ: There’s always something interesting, things like 25 Tips for Aspiring Writers or 5 Things Film-Makers can Learn from Andy Murray.

AW: Exactly, I love all that stuff. So yeah, we’ll be doing the festival run, and then we’ll go out digitally as well; iTunes, VOD, that kind of stuff - that’ll all be next year.

BJ: Well, I’m certainly looking forward to it, and best of luck!

AW: Thank you, yeah it’ll be good fun.

BJ: Thank you for your time, and enjoy the rest of your weekend!

AW: Thank you, you too. Take care.